Political Extremism: A Conversation with Jonah Goldberg (Episode #428)

Sam Harris speaks with Jonah Goldberg about Trump 2.0 and wealth inequality. They discuss the horseshoe theory, illiberalism on the Right and the Left, the fallout of the Trump-Epstein controversy, cracks in Trump’s cult following, the difference between MAGA activists and average republican voters, why the Democrats still haven’t course-corrected, problems with the “abundance agenda,” socialism and economic populism, the pitfalls of the far Left’s approach to solving wealth inequality, Israel’s standing on the world stage, and other topics. Jonah Goldberg is the co-founder and editor-in-chief of The Dispatch. A Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, Goldberg is also an LA Times columnist, CNN contributor, and three-time bestselling author. Website: TheDispatch.com X: @JonahDispatch